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If the difference between M2 and M3 will be 10k many people would have a hard time justifying its purchase over the M3. For 10k you get a lot more car and power in the M3. I would say the difference must be at least 15k.
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Yeah I agree, there is no way this car should be priced higher than the CLA45 and RS3 variants.
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07-08-2015, 09:20 AM | #70 | |
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$15k just isn't going to happen. That would mean the M2 would be at $47k, which would only be $3000 more than the M235i. I just don't see that happening. Might be somewhere in the middle like $12k. This will definitely affect my decision at the end.
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07-08-2015, 09:24 AM | #71 | |
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I checked the prices in Europe in relation to the Benz in Europe a while ago, and it was a bit more if I'm not mistaken.
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Having lived with the 235 for 16 months, I can tell you know that those changes are going to be worth their respective weight in gold. BMW is definitely following the 1M approach, albeit with more R&D on the suspension, brakes, and things of that nature. I had guessed a while back that interior options (like the exterior and interior color options that are already confirmed) will also be limited. You will be able to get things like DCT, Navi, heated seats, HK radio and that's probably it. If you want more options than that, you will need to either "settle" for the 235 or move up to the M3/4.
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07-08-2015, 09:40 AM | #73 |
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All I see is people thrashing the car already...
So let me get this straight, you guys want an M2 with: ///M Seats ///M Setting (adaptive, steering, and Throttle) DCT and DCT settings Merino Leather Extended leather... Carbon Roof why will BMW build this ??? and have the BALLS to make comments like the one below: Make it an affordable ///M for those who want is good. But come on BMW, let the others (those who just do not like the M4...) |
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I don't like the M4. What I want is a smaller car, more agile and fun to drive. Oh and an engine which makes a better noise than my mower. Does that mean that I have to go for a low cost BMW ? No matter for me if "my" M2 is about the same price than an M4. If possible, I would go for a full individual M2, including CCB etc and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Why would all this stuff not be available ? All this is already "developped" for bigger ///M cars. It costs just nothing for BMW to propose this for the M2. The just add marges.
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That's not by accident. We know from the 1M experiment that many folks who weren't lucky or fastidious enough in their respective searching for an open allocation ended up in an E9X M3. BMW is likely hoping for the same kind of result here - sell out of the M2 (no repeat of the Z4MC overproduction and 10K discounts) and have additional folks moving into the higher end M cars. It's a win/win for them...
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You are in the minority, that is willing to drop that kind of money on a car that's supposed to be a "starter" M. $9000 for CCB, $5000 for Individual, $3600 for extended leather. $17000 on those options alone. I'm saying this because I happen to be in the car industry: It's nowhere as easy as you think to do those things. You can't just add extended leather (or HUD as a matter of fact) on a car that does not have it standard. You can't just add whatever paint you want in a factory that isn't equipped to do Individual. My point is, just because it's developed for the bigger M cars doesn't mean you can just drop it into the M2. Heck if your budget is so infinite, you can more or less do all those mods yourself. Not saying it'll be cheap, but look at what iND did with that blue M235i.
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Let see, if M2 ends up using a tuned 340 engine. This engine is is already paired with the 8AT in the 340. Sound like a good chance to me of the 8AT not DCT for M2. Also the m235 race version is running the 8AT, ///M marketing can leverage that too. Edit: whoops I see it was already discussed |
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I'm probably in the minority, but the simpler the better on my end. Give me manual sport seats, in cloth. Give me one setting for all the DCT functions and I'm golden. One auto mode, one manual mode. If I really need to shift more aggressively, I'll do so solo, in manual mode. I'll concede a learning SPORT option on the trans, ala the standard Sport Auto. But on an M car, something following in the steps of the 1M...do you people really need all this luxury on a psuedo track car?
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YOU first wrote MAKE an affordable M2...... NOW you want CCB, Individual package, those two alone are 14K ?? and I do respect your opinion as a fellow member but dont thrash the M4/M3 as it will always be a superior car... |
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Either pony up and buy an M4/M3 or settle for the cheaper smaller variant. |
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A Singer'red out E30 M3, with a stroked 2.5L turbocharged S14? Reading that article was like reading automotive pornography. All the best to those guys, that's going to be one cool car when they build one.
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