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Originally Posted by ozinaldo
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Originally Posted by BenchRacerYo
Judging by all the replies following this one, I know I'm in the majority. The 1M was just a much better 135is.
Saying the 1M is more of an M car than the M3 is just ignorant and all around stupid.
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I'll let EVO, Auto-Bild, Chris Harris and other bunch of morons who owned or still ownes both cars and unexplainably thought the 1M was 'even better' than the wonderful M3, let know about your refined opinion.
What kind of absurdity going on in this thread? Just flaming someone who told that he liked the 1M more! There really are lots of people like that and for good reason; on the other hand, all I find in these kind of posts are a deep hatred and insecurity.
You even forget that better half of your M3 is shared with the 1M, at least according to M Division that thinks and advertises that M cars are more about the chassis than the engine; 1M is almost same chassis of the M3 but is way smaller with a shorter wheelbase and considerably lighter too, with almost 50% more tq than the S65 can produce available from almost 5000 rpm before! How can it be anything bad? Because the engine can't rev up to 8400 rpm?
First of all, if you guys didn't like the 1M back then don't even think that you will like the F8X M3/M4 or a probable M2. Just keep your S65 equipped cars and stop throwing in threads with other cars or any BMW developed after 2010! |
He didn't say he liked the 1M more. He said the 1M was more of an M car than the M3. That is where our problem began.
I have no issue with someone liking the 1M more than the M3. But to go so far as to say it's more of an M car than the M3 is absurd.
No one doubts that the M3 is a true M car. Many doubt that the 1M is.
Also, you'll notice that most M3 owners DONT like the new F80/F82. So yep, we'll keep our S65s.
Lastly, 50% more torque?
370=50% more than 295?
I guess I'm not very good at math...
From the Motortrend test
"But is it better? Lieberman and I agree: No. This big, heavy, and expensive M3, with its unflappable confidence and lascivious powertrain, is the car we want, the car we'll remember as the best of the naturally aspirated Ms. It's the one we'll tell young gearheads about in a few decades with the same fondness and reverence as given its E30 ancestor. The 1M doesn't measure up to the M3's standard. Few cars do."