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      03-18-2018, 03:19 PM   #8
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Except 5.8 is the official Honda time. Real world data has it around 5 flat, and the quarter about 8/10ths faster than the recorded times for the Accord.
https://www.caranddriver.com/honda/civic-type-r

But we are certainly getting to the point where automatics put significant distance on similar manuals, and get noticeably better mileage too. Doesn't mean I'll ever buy one. Manuals are becoming a sizable compromise from a numbers standpoint.
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