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Originally Posted by ajvdh

That's one thing that drives me batshiat about some car dealers: They feel they have to lie, even when telling the truth wouldn't be any worse. Honestly, if a dealer told me "Yeah, it's $5500 'cause it's a desirable car, blah, blah." I still wouldn't be happy, but I'd be less pissed off than hearing an easily debunked lie.

Cool Story Bro: Years ago, we were looking for a used E39 (best all-around car BMW ever built, IMO) for my wife. We went to a couple of different dealers. One of the questions I asked was "why are some cars Certified Pre-Owned, when similar cars are not?"

The salesman at the first dealer said, "Certifying a car costs a fair chunk of change which we have to bake into the price, and some people would rather save the money." A sensible, and probably truthful answer.

The sales weasel at the second dealer could have said the same thing, but instead told us, "well, that particular car had its oil changed at a Jiffy Lube, so it's automatically ineligible for the CPO program." Three tiny problems with that:

1 - The car was new enough that it was still under factory warranty and maintenance. IOW, oil changes would be taken care of at the dealer for free, so why on earth would it be at a Jiffy Lube?
2 - Not 5 minutes before, the salesman had told us he knew nothing about the car's history. Now, all of a sudden, he knows where the oil was changed?
3 - According the BMW NA, there were a list of things that'll disqualify a car, but getting the oil changed somewhere other than a BMW dealer wasn't one of them.

Guess which dealership I bought my M2 from.

It's funny,I said the same to him as well. I said just tell me you've added a premium instead of embarrassing yourself and sounding like a babbling idiot. I was so mad as I was in the process of completing a non refundable deposit.
At the end of the conversation he said "it's really only a small price increase". I followed with "then let's do full MSRP if it's so little,why are we talking about this?!" He had no response lol. Just to finish it off I said I will pay the full premium if he would throw the MPE in go free. Dah!! No answer.

Complete was of time! I laugh about it now though.