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      06-17-2017, 01:49 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by chris719 View Post
The S54 engine has no rev hang, it drops like a rock. S54 throttle response still shames most sports cars since it has independent throttle bodies, no turbos, and no crazy emissions stuff. Never driven an E30 but the S54 is way better than the S50 in every way.
While still decent by modern standards, the e46M3 (S54) still has an electronically controlled DBW (drive-by-wire). The DBC (drive-by-cable) system of previous Ms provide much better feedback, linearity, and feel. There are conversion kits (to DBC) available for the S54. The main point is that the DBC throttle provides a more raw feel than a DBW throttle. Same thing with the CDV (present in the e46) vs a non-CDV in terms of clutch feel and response (rawness).

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Originally Posted by chris719
Older cars are going to be more raw, period. The only way to get close is a real sports car, which are few and far between these days. Current M cars are not real sports cars, they are sports sedans/coupes.

If OP wants something significantly more raw, try a 987.2 Cayman S.
This is the main point I was making when comparing the e30 to the e46. Nothing more, nothing less. I love the e46, but when it comes to raw feel, the e30 has more of it just like the e46 has more of it over the f87.
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