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      06-22-2014, 11:15 PM   #308
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ah ok. so are you competing for milliseconds?
He is just trying to make you understand you what "holding boost" mean... and a few ms every time you shift and and you can easily rack a few seconds after some shifts....

in an auto if you are at 11psi on boost in 2nd gear when it switches to 3rd the boost never droops...and stays at 11psi

in the manual if you are at 11psi on boost in 2nd gear when you switch to 3rd and release the throttle you probably drop to 7 or 8 until you get back in the gas....

Involvement is totally subjective and you can prefer whichever you want....
But the auto will always be faster and more efficient than the manual and that's just a fact....

Days of manual transmission are already counted.... next M5 and M3/4 most likely won't offer it..... and even the auto trans days are counted too....10-15 years from now most cars will be electric with no gears...
I agree....the manual is on the way out.....but plenty of good cars still offering them so not completely gone.

the DCT transmissions are great....the ZF auto boxes are overrated torque converted nonsense catering to the lazy driver with the illusion that they are like a DCT...they are being used because they are cheap...much cheaper than DCTs. Cost savings, ick! you'll never see an M car with a ZF gearbox....that would be a bit of a joke really.
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